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Hello everyone, this is Doctor Bob, Doctor Bob Gebbe, Chief

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scientific Officer for the American Diabetes Association, and welcome to

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Dialogue with ADA.

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And today's topic is a really important one, what you

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need to know about diabetes and kidney disease.

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And you know, this topic is so important because as

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you'll learn more, the number one cause for severe kidney

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disease and need for dialysis is diabetes.

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And sadly that's not changed.

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But the good news is there's so much that can

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be done to prevent kidney damage, and we'll talk about

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that as well.

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It's it's really because of this that the American Diabetes

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Association has really been driving a kidney health initiative and

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working with partners that you'll meet today, one of which

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is DaVita, a really wonderful partner in this effort.

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And so we're going to have two speakers and I'm

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going to have them introduce themselves in a moment.

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But one of the things that's going to be fun

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is that we're going to get the perspective of the

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healthcare professional, but we're also going to get the real

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life story of someone living with diabetes and get their

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impression.

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And we hope through through all of that you get

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come out with a better understanding of the connection between

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diabetes and kidney disease and most importantly, what you can

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do and spreading the word to your loved ones to

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maintain good kidney health.

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So I'm going to start.

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Tina, can you introduce yourself to the audience?

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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As as you mentioned, my name is Tina Levidae and

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I am currently the Chief Nursing Officer for DaVita.

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I am a registered nurse and have spent really my

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lifetime and career working in kidney care.

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I've been with DaVita for more than 27 years and

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really have dedicated my life's work to ensure that I'm

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able to contribute just really meaningful in the care of

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patients with kidney disease and also participate in events like

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this where we're able to educate other patients around delaying

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the progression.

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So super excited to be here and and thanks for

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inviting me.

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Great and great to have you Tina.

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And then Tiffany, you are an amazing woman is when

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you come to know you.

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So please introduce yourself and tell a little bit about

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yourself.

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Well, thank you for that intro.

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No, my name is Tiffany Martin.

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I've had type 1 juvenile diabetes almost going on 30

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years.

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I'm I'm almost telling my age.

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I am a recent kidney recipient.

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This would actually have been my second one and when

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I was 27 I lost my sight as well as

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my kidney function and that started me on my kidney

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journey.

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And so now I am all about advocacy and sharing

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light on my story to prevent anybody as much as

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I can with sharing from enduring what I and my

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loved ones had to go through with my health journey.

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Yeah, thank you Tiffany for sharing that.

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And your, your story, as we'll continue to hear on

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this is, is inspiring and, and, and your courage is

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really wonderful.

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So let, let's jump right into it And I'll, I'll,

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you know, for the audience, put your questions in the

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chat because we've got some questions already that we want

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to cover, but we'd love to answer yours as well.

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So Tina, let let's start with the basics.

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So what is chronic kidney disease?

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Sure, this is a a great question and I think

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I will definitely start with the basics and not not

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make any assumptions here.

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So let me just start by saying and sharing what

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what do the kidneys do?

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So the kidneys when functioning properly, help our body filter

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waste and excess fluid from our blood and it's removed

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from our blood and it passes from the body through

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urination.

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And So what what CKD is or otherwise known as

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chronic kidney disease, is a gradual loss of that function

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or gradual damage to the kidneys, which could in reality

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take many years to progress.

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But what happens is the kidney function slowly declines.

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And so that inability of a healthy kidney to process

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the fluid and the waste from your bloodstream really fails.

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And so that can result in a buildup of excess

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waste fluid, electrolytes that really can make you unhealthy, right?

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And if it continues to fail, can lead to a

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need for dialysis.

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And as you mentioned earlier, Doctor Gabe, I think this

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this discussion really is just so relevant for this audience

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because as we know, diabetes is the leading indicator for

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kidney failure.

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And so I think it's important for this audience in

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particular to understand that they are at risk for CKD

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or chronic kidney disease in general.

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And there is a lot of actions that you can

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take to help prevent that.

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And it's just also why I'm excited about the Vita's

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relationship with ADA, to help create this awareness for patients

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who are living with diabetes and ultimately help them prevent

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CKD.

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Thanks, Tina.

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Yeah, really.

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You know, we want people to know more so that

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they can do the things to ensure that they have

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good kidney health.

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And thanks for describing what the kidneys do and, and

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CKD, We'll, we'll use CKD for the rest of this

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chronic kidney disease.

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Just easier to say.

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So Tiffany, tell us a little bit about, you know,

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your CKD diagnosis.

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Like what was it like?

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When did you find out that you had CKD?

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So what I noticed, I was at work and I

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had noticed I was very lethargic.

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And then I started kind of gaining this weight that

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I couldn't really account for and realized I was retaining

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a lot of fluid.

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So it was a lot of puffiness.

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There was, I noticed, a lack of urination and it

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got to a point to where the best way I

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can describe it was just kind of drowning without being

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underwater.

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It was a lot of coughing, a lot of fluid

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in the lungs.

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So when we went to the doctors, what they did

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is released all the fluid, the various, you know, techniques

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and methods, you know, to try to get that under

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control.

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And kind of before we knew it, I was on,

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you know, PT peritoneal dialysis.

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They had implanted the tube and after that it was

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immediately going to DaVita, which I would say going through

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all of you know, that life change and that turmoil

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and such a a small span of time.

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The nurse and I'll never forget her.

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Her name was Retina.

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She was an incredible resource and support throughout the entire

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ordeal, educating US on, you know, what to do next,

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educating my parents, providing support, you know, to both of

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them on how to function, you know, within in that

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space through everything.

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So it was, it was a whirlwind and it was

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really for me an emotional time experiencing it with the

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people that I love because it was also a life,

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a life change, a life altering event for them as

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well.

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You know, going from, you know, this normal lifestyle into,

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you know, they're becoming nurses overnight and just kind of

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that weight of what was happening to me and, and

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feeling it experienced through everyone else.

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It was.

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It took a toll mentally just as much as it

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did physically.

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So then thanks for sharing that.

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And it, it, it sounds like it, it was a

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lot to absorb and, and, and it sounds like it

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you didn't even realize you had kidney issues.

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No, to be Yeah.

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No, to be honest, I was visiting my sister in

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Colorado, and I kind of took it to like, the,

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you know, altitude of, you know, the, the air thinning

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out.

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And I'm like, well, maybe, you know, maybe it's dead

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and maybe it's jet lag and, you know, maybe I

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just need to go walk or, you know, drink more

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water, which was, you know, counteractive to everything.

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And it wasn't until I flew from Denver to New

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York to go on a date with who now is

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my husband that I really.

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Yeah.

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I realized as soon as he picked me up from

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the airport, I immediately fell asleep.

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And he was, you know, are you OK?

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And I'm like, I don't really.

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I didn't really know what was happening at the time,

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but my body was starting to shut down and it

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was just very noticeable as I was just trying to

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maneuver and navigate, you know, life as you would day-to-day.

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And it was very, it was very obvious that something

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was was wrong during those traveling times.

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Yeah.

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And, and, and so Tina, like how, you know, we

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heard about some of the symptoms that, you know, can

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develop and, and then how common is it for people

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not to know that they have kidney disease?

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Yeah, it's, it's actually pretty common.

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So Tiffany's story is not unusual.

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The Yeah, the the signs and symptoms for CKD are

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just really gradual and really subtle.

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And so they're they're very easy to miss.

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And I'll just share just a couple of them.

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And Tiffany, you did a great job of explaining a

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couple that you experienced.

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I mean, definitely a lack of energy, being lethargic is

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1.

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Sometimes patients might experience kind of a metallic taste in

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their mouth or what some people refer to as kind

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of ammonia breath.

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Sometimes there's nausea and vomiting, a general lack of appetite,

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Tiffany mentioned.

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About kind of the shortness of breath and the the

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swelling that can potentially accompany that.

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I, I often refer to this as the, as the

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pillow test.

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So sometimes you can see a change in the number

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of pillows that you need to sleep.

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The more pillows, if you're having difficulty breathing, the more

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pillows you're going to add.

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So you're, you're sitting up as you're sleeping through the

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night.

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That could be potentially a, a symptom.

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And then Tiffany referred to this as well, but a

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change in urination could also potentially be a, a sign

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or a symptom.

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So it could be, you know, either urinating more, urinating

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less frequently, foaming in your, your urine, blood in your

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urine could be a possibility.

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So all of those things are, are, are things that

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you would want to watch for.

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But again, I will just iterate that it's gradual and

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they're extremely subtle.

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So they're very easy to miss.

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And so thinking about a patient who has diabetes or

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someone who has diabetes, the probably most important action to

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take would be to get tested annually by your physician

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because that is going to be your indicator to whether

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or not you're progressing towards kidney disease in, in the,

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in the missing of potential signs and symptoms.

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Yeah, that's a really good, important point, Tina.

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So there are a bunch of signs and symptoms, but

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they really don't happen until pretty late, like pretty advanced

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like your, your kidneys are functioning at a really low

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level and, and then it's, you know, can be challenging

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to do much at that point.

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At the same time, a simple blood and urine test

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will tell you right away.

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So it's it's not hard to figure out whether someone

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has kidney disease is just getting tested.

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Exactly and.

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That's, and that's why the recommendations, you know, are to,

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you know, at least yearly to be tested and to

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talk to your healthcare professional about that.

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So we've heard a little bit of, you know, what

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the, what kidney disease is and CKD is and how

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we might not realize it till you're pretty far along

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and that you can diagnose it early.

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So what can you do to prevent kidney disease And,

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and maybe Tina you if you want to share a

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little bit of some some ideas.

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Yeah.

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I think, I think first and foremost we, we just

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mentioned this, but I think it's extremely important that you're

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under the care of a physician and that you are

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screened every single year via a urine or a urine

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or a blood test.

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So definitely stay under the advisement of your physician.

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I think one of the things that is probably the

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most simple thing to do is to ensure that you're

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taking your medications as prescribed, both your diabetes and your

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blood pressure medication.

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We talked earlier about diabetes being one of the leading

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indicators or causes for kidney failure, and that's because high

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blood sugar levels as well as high blood pressure really

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damage the vessels in the kidney, which could then lead

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to to continued damage and ultimately to the progression towards

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failure, which is what we're we're talking about.

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And so you should definitely ensure that you're taking your

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medications as prescribed by your doctor to make sure that

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you're keeping your blood sugar as well as your your

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blood pressure under control to limit that that damage.

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And then I also would recommend that you understand your

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risk level for, for kidney disease.

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And we are, you know, have been working with the

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ADA and you can go to thediabetes.org or well as

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well as davita.com.

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And we have developed just a 62nd kind of questionnaire

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that you can complete that will risk your give you

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an understanding of your risk as it relates to CKD

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and kidney failure.

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And so I would encourage you that you visit those

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websites and and take those quizzes.

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And then I think again, most importantly is to advocate

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for yourself with your physicians around getting screened annually for

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chronic kidney disease.

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You, you hit on all sorts of great things.

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I'm just gonna hammer them, you know, like get screened

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every year.

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Blood glucose, blood pressure.

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I mean, those three things can make all the difference.

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Tiffany, in your journey as as you reflect back, you

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know what, what do you, what might you have wanted

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to have known or done differently in all of this?

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Differently, and it's kind of why I advocate so much

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now, in particularly for the African American community, we look

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at food more so as a comfort and not necessarily

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energy and fuel.

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And with that in mind, we tend to lean toward

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foods that are more, you know, appeasing, you know, to

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our tummies as opposed to what they could possibly do

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to better our prolonged, you know, our lifespan.

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With that, you know, the, you know, your fried foods

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or things that are more heavy and comforting.

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And so I would have, if I could, you know,

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once I got older, altered, you know, my eating habits,

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just the, just the education now that I have about,

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you know, certain type of foods, you know, and then

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also moderation.

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I know when people become or learn that they're diabetic,

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they kind of, you know, I can't eat anything.

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And that's, that's not necessarily true.

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It's moderation and what you eat, you know, you can

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enjoy some things.

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You just have to work around those things, whether you

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know, adjusting your insulin, you know, increasing your work.

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It's just, it's just management.

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More so also the intersectionality that I have between being

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an African American and a woman on the on the

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woman's side, it's, you know, we handle our stresses differently.

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And, you know, the stress on our body increases our,

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you know, blood pressure, which ultimately for me did not

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help, you know, the poor management that I had over

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my diabetes, but also contributed to me losing my eyesight

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from the high blood pressure as well as the kidney

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function.

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So it's just being mindful of those things that we

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really just don't, you know, don't take into consideration when

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we're just living.

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You know, it's stresses.

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Oh, it's work, It's normal.

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No, you might need to take some time, digress, figure

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out some solutions to bring that blood pressure down or,

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you know, when we're out socializing and eating or, you

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know, drinking, hey, might need to be a little bit

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more conscious about what you're putting into your body because

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like Tina mentioned, it's gradual.

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So you know, you're not going to have the immediate

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effects of oh, oh, you know, have this, you know,

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casual drink here.

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It won't affect me.

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You keep having these casual drinks over, you know, period

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of time, they start to stack up and then before

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you know it.

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You're too advanced in renal failure to be able to

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reverse any of those symptoms, so.

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Yeah, very, very true.

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And it's really again, catching things early, not letting them

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progress.

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And, and, and the other point that probably the audience

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should know is that you, you mentioned the African American

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community at higher risk for developing high blood pressure and

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much higher risk of developing kidney disease and high risk

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of developing diabetes.

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So all of things, these things together really make it

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that much more important to sort of pay attention, get

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screened, get tested and and do the right things.

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If you don't mind, Tiffany.

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So you tell us a little bit about your experience

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with getting a kidney transplant.

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So the the real question is which one?

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Yes, right.

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You, you actually have had more than one.

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So yes, if you want to just briefly, you know,

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tell people a little bit what what's involved and then

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and then I'm going to ask Tina a little bit

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to tell us like, you know, who can get a

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kidney transplant and you know, that kind of stuff.

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So leading up to it, there's a lot of testing,

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there's a lot of blood work.

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One thing that we or I focused on rather is

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my sister became vegan a couple years ago right after

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00:21:47.983 --> 00:21:51.680
I got diagnosed with kidney disease.

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And so I kind of, you know, I'm, I like

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to say I'm vegan adjacent.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8589463829994202

00:21:56.560 --> 00:21:59.690
So because a lot of her, you know, her, her

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cooking tips and you know how she went about it

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and applied it to what I was eating.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8535574078559875

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So I kept my my weight, you know, and I,

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I kept in good shape, all things considered.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9582408666610718

00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.520
I walked and everything because I didn't want any complications

NOTE Confidence: 0.9582408666610718

00:22:18.577 --> 00:22:19.320
with surgery.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8606657981872559

00:22:19.600 --> 00:22:23.759
They check various things and I'm, I'm sure Tina get

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00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:27.599
into it, but you know, is your body well enough

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00:22:27.679 --> 00:22:30.719
to endure a surgery of that magnitude?

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And so from there I got a pancreas and kidney

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transplant, which for the pancreas technically, and I like to

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do my air quotes, I don't have to take insulin

NOTE Confidence: 0.8973695635795593

00:22:44.710 --> 00:22:50.690
because my, the transplanted kidney that I had transplanted pancreas

NOTE Confidence: 0.8973695635795593

00:22:50.778 --> 00:22:53.679
that I have is producing insulin.

NOTE Confidence: 0.920798659324646

00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.142
And so that kind of limits down my, my glucose

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00:22:59.227 --> 00:23:03.299
testing as well, even though I do get that every

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00:23:03.384 --> 00:23:07.796
two weeks, you know, my doctor visits and whatnot, I

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00:23:07.881 --> 00:23:11.359
got that the first kidney from a cadaver.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8961911201477051

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:18.649
And historically they don't last as long as the living

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00:23:18.767 --> 00:23:19.480
donor.

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And so from that, that was done in June of

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2017.

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I got married in January of 2019 and I started

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00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:34.759
seeing rejection around that time.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8874513506889343

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And by August of 2020, we noticed the signs, March

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00:23:41.606 --> 00:23:42.680
of 2019.

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00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:46.621
But by August of 2020, I was was back on

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00:23:46.719 --> 00:23:50.857
dialysis and I just as of May 17th of this

NOTE Confidence: 0.846476137638092

00:23:50.956 --> 00:23:56.080
year, received a kidney from one of my best friends.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9518617391586304

00:23:56.320 --> 00:23:59.601
And so I am doing all that I can to

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00:23:59.695 --> 00:24:02.040
take care of this kidney.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8799068927764893

00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:06.995
And even though I'm no longer quote UN quote diabetic

NOTE Confidence: 0.8799068927764893

00:24:07.081 --> 00:24:10.520
per SE, I still function as though I am.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8825202584266663

00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.419
So I'm not, even though I can, I'm not, you

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00:24:13.477 --> 00:24:15.280
know, eating sweets like crazy.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9301186800003052

00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.520
All I drink is water and medicine balls from Starbucks.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8364925980567932

00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:23.031
You know, I don't really put anything I, I stay

NOTE Confidence: 0.8364925980567932

00:24:23.091 --> 00:24:26.042
clear away from sodas, but I, I pretty much still

NOTE Confidence: 0.8364925980567932

00:24:26.103 --> 00:24:29.175
function as though I was a diabetic because I don't

NOTE Confidence: 0.8364925980567932

00:24:29.235 --> 00:24:30.439
want to return back.

NOTE Confidence: 0.5484503507614136

00:24:30.760 --> 00:24:32.640
So yeah, sounds like you're.

NOTE Confidence: 0.7656298279762268

00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:35.920
Extra careful so so Tina.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9438193440437317

00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:36.160
Yeah.

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00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.600
Who who's eligible for a kidney transplant and.

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00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:40.480
And you know.

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00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:42.920
Yeah, Yeah.

NOTE Confidence: 0.7833358645439148

00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:43.520
I would love that.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8893393874168396

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First, just to reiterate that with proper management, patients can,

NOTE Confidence: 0.8893393874168396

00:24:49.721 --> 00:24:53.980
can really delay CKD to prevent to the point of

NOTE Confidence: 0.8893393874168396

00:24:54.071 --> 00:24:56.880
needing dialysis or transplant.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8525798916816711

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So that's that's the number one message is mainly your

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care and do all the things that we've been talking

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about.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9536209106445312

00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:05.166
So you don't get to the place where you would

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00:25:05.222 --> 00:25:06.880
be posed with such a question.

NOTE Confidence: 0.812635600566864

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And then obviously these discussions should, should happen with your

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00:25:11.339 --> 00:25:13.679
healthcare providers and your position.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8441804647445679

00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:17.352
But in general, you know, what we would love to

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00:25:17.422 --> 00:25:21.599
see are patients receive what we call preemptive transplant.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9639386534690857

00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:25.513
So they're able to be transplanted before they have a

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00:25:25.587 --> 00:25:30.240
need for dialysis or another form of renal replacement therapy.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8818361759185791

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:35.204
And, and so there are many patients that are great

NOTE Confidence: 0.8818361759185791

00:25:35.295 --> 00:25:37.759
candidates for transplants.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9595029950141907

00:25:37.760 --> 00:25:41.005
And Tiffany spoke about the ability to get both a

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00:25:41.072 --> 00:25:45.377
pancreatic transplant as well as a kidney transplant, which would

NOTE Confidence: 0.9595029950141907

00:25:45.443 --> 00:25:46.040
be ideal.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9552512764930725

00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:51.367
But there are some contraindications for those with to receive

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00:25:51.446 --> 00:25:52.480
a transplant.

NOTE Confidence: 0.86334627866745

00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.400
And so that might be like presence of a malignancy

NOTE Confidence: 0.86334627866745

00:25:56.479 --> 00:26:00.399
or another type of of cancer and active infection.

NOTE Confidence: 0.7967446446418762

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:05.091
So might, might prohibit a, a transplant until that is

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resolved.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9519174695014954

00:26:06.320 --> 00:26:09.760
Drug and alcohol dependency is a consideration.

NOTE Confidence: 0.917660117149353

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.986
And then even at times obesity or is, is another

NOTE Confidence: 0.917660117149353

00:26:14.059 --> 00:26:17.930
consideration that we would need to think about as an

NOTE Confidence: 0.917660117149353

00:26:18.003 --> 00:26:18.879
active plan.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9290347099304199

00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:24.787
But in general, kidney transplants absolutely create a better quality

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00:26:24.860 --> 00:26:28.238
of life and are more favorable in terms of not

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00:26:28.312 --> 00:26:32.645
only quality of life, but survival statistics as it relates

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00:26:32.718 --> 00:26:33.600
to dialysis.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8875866532325745

00:26:34.080 --> 00:26:36.408
And so I would just encourage you again to have

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00:26:36.458 --> 00:26:38.440
these conversations with your physician.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8656070232391357

00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.125
You have an absolute right if when you get to

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00:26:42.197 --> 00:26:45.876
the point of of needing this referral, but you have

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00:26:45.948 --> 00:26:49.843
an absolute right to a referral to a transplant center

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00:26:49.915 --> 00:26:52.440
and so and to a nephrologist early.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9281226992607117

00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.273
And so I would engage in those conversations with your

NOTE Confidence: 0.9281226992607117

00:26:56.344 --> 00:27:00.320
doctors so you can be evaluated for a transplant option.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8776769042015076

00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.804
And if for some reason you you're not ready, then

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00:27:03.868 --> 00:27:07.614
working with that healthcare team to develop a plan around

NOTE Confidence: 0.8776769042015076

00:27:07.678 --> 00:27:10.843
obesity or whatever else it may be that you could

NOTE Confidence: 0.8776769042015076

00:27:10.907 --> 00:27:14.201
actively work on for you to progress to be eligible

NOTE Confidence: 0.8776769042015076

00:27:14.265 --> 00:27:15.880
for transplant over time.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9373589754104614

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:17.400
Great.

NOTE Confidence: 0.950991690158844

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:22.682
So people should consider the option of transplant if they

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00:27:22.772 --> 00:27:24.399
are at that point.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9402359127998352

00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.797
And and again, the big message here is that all

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00:27:27.869 --> 00:27:30.400
of this is potentially preventable.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8835257291793823

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.550
And so one of the questions that came out in

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00:27:33.621 --> 00:27:37.488
the chat were we mentioned that you could do screening

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for kidney disease.

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00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.439
People are concerned maybe they have kidney disease and they

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00:27:41.481 --> 00:27:42.279
don't even know it.

NOTE Confidence: 0.943148672580719

00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.280
So what should they ask for?

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00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.449
Yeah, I think 2, two things that I would encourage

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00:27:48.509 --> 00:27:49.399
you to ask for.

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One is a simple urine test that assesses what what's

NOTE Confidence: 0.8585913777351379

00:27:54.503 --> 00:27:58.999
called albumin or protein presence in your urine.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9613628387451172

00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.989
So if that is positive, that's abnormal and can indicate

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00:28:03.061 --> 00:28:05.839
that you might have some kidney damage.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8889431953430176

00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:10.310
The second is called is a blood test and it's

NOTE Confidence: 0.8889431953430176

00:28:10.396 --> 00:28:16.245
called GFR which calculates your glomerular filtration rate which is

NOTE Confidence: 0.8889431953430176

00:28:16.331 --> 00:28:20.718
inside of your kidneys and that's the the filter so

NOTE Confidence: 0.8889431953430176

00:28:20.804 --> 00:28:25.105
to speak that kind of eliminates the waste and and

NOTE Confidence: 0.8889431953430176

00:28:25.191 --> 00:28:29.320
fluids that we talked about earlier in the call.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9222176671028137

00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.204
And so it's a simple blood test that will give

NOTE Confidence: 0.9222176671028137

00:28:33.281 --> 00:28:36.691
you a number to your doctor as it relates to

NOTE Confidence: 0.9222176671028137

00:28:36.768 --> 00:28:40.798
how your kidney is functioning and it will tell them

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00:28:40.875 --> 00:28:44.827
when in fact you might be progressing to kidney and

NOTE Confidence: 0.9222176671028137

00:28:44.905 --> 00:28:46.919
ultimately kidney failure.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9522536396980286

00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.184
And then there are associated actions that should take during

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00:28:50.234 --> 00:28:53.010
that time, like a referral to a nephrologist, A referral

NOTE Confidence: 0.9522536396980286

00:28:53.060 --> 00:28:55.440
to a transplant center as we've been discussing.

NOTE Confidence: 0.629281759262085

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:56.520
Yep.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8834156394004822

00:28:56.600 --> 00:29:00.444
So you're in for protein and GFR and you can

NOTE Confidence: 0.8834156394004822

00:29:00.531 --> 00:29:03.239
get those pretty much anywhere.

NOTE Confidence: 0.18793396651744843

00:29:03.760 --> 00:29:03.840
Wow.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9175385236740112

00:29:04.080 --> 00:29:06.120
Like every lab does these tests.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8481812477111816

00:29:06.120 --> 00:29:07.640
They're not, they're not unusual.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8178489804267883

00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:08.080
Yeah.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9152033925056458

00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.294
So if if you have diabetes and you haven't had

NOTE Confidence: 0.9152033925056458

00:29:11.360 --> 00:29:14.879
those tests done, you should definitely ask for time.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8806527256965637

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Is like we're we're moving really quickly here.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8652837872505188

00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:18.560
This has been a great conversation.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9599433541297913

00:29:18.560 --> 00:29:21.080
So we haven't been able to cover everything.

NOTE Confidence: 0.916094958782196

00:29:21.080 --> 00:29:24.895
So Tina resources, if people want to learn more, they

NOTE Confidence: 0.916094958782196

00:29:24.967 --> 00:29:28.999
want more support, they, they, they have more questions.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8977483510971069

00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.243
We couldn't get to them all today, but maybe we'll

NOTE Confidence: 0.8977483510971069

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do this again sometime.

NOTE Confidence: 0.6277068853378296

00:29:32.320 --> 00:29:32.520
What?

NOTE Confidence: 0.778997004032135

00:29:32.520 --> 00:29:33.400
Where can they go?

NOTE Confidence: 0.9320882558822632

00:29:33.800 --> 00:29:34.240
For sure.

NOTE Confidence: 0.7536359429359436

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.200
And I know we're almost that time.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9145625829696655

00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.040
So really quickly.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9104019403457642

00:29:36.320 --> 00:29:38.800
diabetes.org absolutely.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8784354329109192

00:29:38.800 --> 00:29:44.105
And I think it's diabetes.org/kidney is your your resource that

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includes both DaVita, so renal information plus diabetic information.

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So definitely that's number one number to is you can

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00:29:54.449 --> 00:29:58.432
also visit divita.com which has a lot of resources there

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00:29:58.504 --> 00:30:02.700
as well that's readily available for you to find additional

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00:30:02.771 --> 00:30:06.399
resources as it relates to dietary needs as well as

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00:30:06.470 --> 00:30:08.959
kidney community education classes.

NOTE Confidence: 0.896369218826294

00:30:09.800 --> 00:30:12.560
Great, so there's lots of information out there.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8875672221183777

00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:16.040
Go to reliable sources like the ones you described.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9233605265617371

00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:20.280
We'll throw those into the comments.

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00:30:20.280 --> 00:30:23.240
And and I think we need to wrap up here.

NOTE Confidence: 0.845638632774353

00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.965
So maybe I'll, I'll, I'll ask each of you for

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00:30:27.048 --> 00:30:30.691
sort of a, a final thought to share with the

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audience.

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00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:32.240
So.

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00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:35.871
So let's start with you, Tiffany, and then we'll, we'll

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00:30:35.936 --> 00:30:36.840
let you, yeah.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9124796390533447

00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.738
For the most part, don't look at diabetes as you

NOTE Confidence: 0.9124796390533447

00:30:42.806 --> 00:30:46.199
know, just something that's impeding on your life.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8855812549591064

00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:51.760
Just look at it as another managed opportunity.

NOTE Confidence: 0.898737370967865

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.179
You know, just as you would change your lifestyle to

NOTE Confidence: 0.898737370967865

00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.176
a healthy 1 in order, like you know, working out

NOTE Confidence: 0.898737370967865

00:30:58.237 --> 00:31:01.050
or you know what foods you know keto diet, you

NOTE Confidence: 0.898737370967865

00:31:01.111 --> 00:31:02.639
know all of those things.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8389284014701843

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.385
Just think of it as another component just to maintain

NOTE Confidence: 0.8389284014701843

00:31:06.447 --> 00:31:09.582
your life and just find ways to incorporate it and

NOTE Confidence: 0.8389284014701843

00:31:09.644 --> 00:31:12.841
not look so much at it as something that's impeding

NOTE Confidence: 0.8389284014701843

00:31:12.904 --> 00:31:15.349
on, on who you are and what you want to

NOTE Confidence: 0.8389284014701843

00:31:15.411 --> 00:31:15.600
do.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8211532831192017

00:31:15.840 --> 00:31:17.240
It's, it's manageable.

NOTE Confidence: 0.911754846572876

00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:19.400
You can, you can beat it.

NOTE Confidence: 0.9466661810874939

00:31:19.560 --> 00:31:21.996
You do not have to end up like I did

NOTE Confidence: 0.9466661810874939

00:31:22.063 --> 00:31:26.191
being blind going through 2 transplants, 2 types of dialysis,

NOTE Confidence: 0.9466661810874939

00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:28.559
you know, affecting my loved ones.

NOTE Confidence: 0.8618831038475037

00:31:28.840 --> 00:31:30.920
It's completely preventable.

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Thanks for your service to the community to tell your

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your story.

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Tina final words.

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I, I, I think Tiffany said it all, I would

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just reiterate that this is completely manageable and preventable.

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And so my one word of advice, I guess, would

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be get smart about your risk factors, the actions as

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we've been discussing that you can take to prevent progression

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to CKD and use the resources around you.

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They're, they're really abundant.

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And so take advantage of that to help you kind

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of navigate your path forward.

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Great.

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And reminder, diabetes.org/kidney you should see in the in the

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comments section For more information.

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This has been ADA dialogue.

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Thank you both for joining us.

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Thank the audience and we will be posting this.

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So if a loved one or a friend that you

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think would benefit from this program, share it and again,

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